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Topic: TinyMCE 3.3.9.1 Released

This release fixes various browser issues but it's focused on IE 9 beta1 since some larger sites are promoting users to install this even though it's a beta and full of bugs. Some bugs are pretty serious like regexps not working correctly, CSS clipping or onload events. We have reported many of these and will continue to test and report others but it's hard to know what Microsoft will fix and what they will break for the next release. IE8 was a struggle to get working last time since from each beta new bugs appeared and some of them where never fixed even if they where reported early.

We also fixed a issue where Opera 10.62 (Presto) would mysteriously delete elements if you did things with the selection to fast. Sounds like some odd performance feature that has produced new bugs.

Older versions of TinyMCE will still work if you put IE 9 beta1 in compatibility mode. So we recommend upgrading to this release if you have issues with IE 9 standards mode.

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2 Reply by happy_noodle_boy

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Re: TinyMCE 3.3.9.1 Released

I installed it this morning and was quite excited about it. Yay! rounded corners! Then everything else broke sad

I guess thats what you should expect from a beta.

Thanks for the update.

Ryan

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Re: TinyMCE 3.3.9.1 Released

Yeah, it's very buggy. However I think Google has destroyed the word "beta" when they had their Gmail service under beta for so many years. Now days people expect betas to be stable enough for day to day usage.

I'm excited over the features they bring in this release so it's not all bad. smile

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Re: TinyMCE 3.3.9.1 Released

thanks for TinyMCE 3.3.9.1 wink

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Re: TinyMCE 3.3.9.1 Released

I think Microsoft has destroyed the word "stable" with IE6, 7, 8 and maybe soon IE9 ! (ditto too with w95, w98, vista...)

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Re: TinyMCE 3.3.9.1 Released

Ha ha, maybe so. But I tend to say that IE is not crappy it's just old and cranky.

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Re: TinyMCE 3.3.9.1 Released

What are changed files out there for upgrades?

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Re: TinyMCE 3.3.9.1 Released

Hey everyone, I'm new to the forums here but I'm a long time MCE user.

Spocke, there is something I've always wanted to ask you: do you condone the use of Internet Explorer (any version)? I always figured that, like many web developers, you probably despised IE because of the additional work / frustration it makes for you with it's complete disregard for web standards. I have been a web developer / programmer for many years and love my job, but one thing that I have hated since day one is supporting IE. Anyway, I don't mean to rant, I'm just curios what your thoughts are on that.
By the way, I love TinyMCE -- it's the greatest WYSIWYG editor on earth. Thanks to you and all the other TinyMCE devs for all your hard work and dedication to resolving bugs.

Thanks for the new release!

All the best.
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Re: TinyMCE 3.3.9.1 Released

SiSL wrote:

What are changed files out there for upgrades?

http://github.com/tinymce/tinymce/compa … ...3.3.9.1

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Re: TinyMCE 3.3.9.1 Released

Thanks heaps for new release, there is one issue that I've been experiencing since the introduction of the Paste as Plain Text toggle feature.

When pasting from NeoOffice using the Paste as Plain Text toggle button, some random characters are inserted before the actual content that is pasted e.g. "Version:1.0 StartHTML:0000000167 EndHTML:0000002328 StartFragment:0000000451 EndFragment:0000002312 Pasted Content"

I've just found the following setting paste_text_use_dialog : true which brings back the old popup courtesy of Aptuitiv Blog.

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Re: TinyMCE 3.3.9.1 Released

@dylansm21: Actually I think most of the criticism against IE is unfair. The browser is old and outdated even IE 9 will be behind the others in API and CSS coverage. But if it hadn't been for IE we wouldn't have Ajax (XHR) or contentEditable I guess we would have some other form of API:s since the functionality is pretty obvious but it would have taken a lot longer for these technologies to get adopted. And I was somewhat happy to see Netscape 4 getting scrapped since it was horrible to work with especially when doing things with CSS and Javascript.

When it comes to making an editor the editable support in IE is pretty good it's not perfect but it's way better that the WebKit support. The WebKit implementation of contentEditable is horrible and some of the bugs we reported a like 4 years ago is still open. I guess it's more fun adding cool 3d css animations than fixing bugs.

But when MS released IE 8 they released it way to early since it is very buggy and I feel that they where hiding behind "standards" to not implement things like opacity from CSS 3 since that spec wasn't "finished". However for IE 9 they seem to implement all kinds of features and it's nice too see some of them, especially DOM Ranges since that has been a major struggle to fake on IE and all other browsers have them.

So all in all I don't really dislike any of the browsers. They all have their good or bad sides and they all have annoying bugs that one needs to work around.

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Re: TinyMCE 3.3.9.1 Released

Why not 3.3.10?

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Re: TinyMCE 3.3.9.1 Released

We use the last number for very minor changes such as small bug fixes etc. I guess it a bit overkill to have to many minors.

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